Originally posted by Qinji:the point of my argument is not to say that it is useless, It does have its moments to shine, dont get me wrong but the frequency of proper use depends on experience and i was merely supporting a previous post in this thread stating that something so skill based may not be the best as one of the few selections of starting characters. until I do something stupid like use an explosive weapon. It may be hard to compare rolls to eating guns directly, but my point was that I am making great use of the ability and sometimes those uses actually save my life. That, for me, you and most other runners, is way more than people usually use Rebel's, Robot's, Eyes', or Chicken's abilities. My claim was that I used Fish's active around 10 times a level obviously this varies. My point was that during your runs, you know the times you actually try, you simply don't use the active abilities of certain characters. Infact I respect your play quite a lot as you are, in my personal opinion, one of the best runners. And Ill have you know that I experiment endlessly off camera with techniques and strategies.Qinji no one said you don't understand the abilities. just because i dont use them doesnt mean I dont understand them. Originally posted by Qinji:first if all, putting the fact that i dont use skills regularly on my runs is unfair. Yes, I agree its something that with lots of time can definitely mastered into something that will frequently save your life but at the same time you can also master painting with your feet. Its an example that Rami has stated in another thread about new players either using the active skills wrong or ineffectively. Newbie may choose Fish, decide the roll to be a suicide skill as elminister put and then never give it any future chance. The point of my argument is not to say that it is useless, It does have its moments to shine, dont get me wrong but the frequency of proper use depends on experience and i was merely supporting a previous post in this thread stating that something so skill based may not be the best as one of the few selections of starting characters. And Ill have you know that I experiment endlessly off camera with techniques and strategies. Such characters should be newbie friendly.įirst if all, putting the fact that i dont use skills regularly on my runs is unfair. There's no question Dodge Roll is hard to use effectively, and Fish is a mascott of Nuclear Throne, a character unlocked at the start. The very idea is fundamentally broken, and the niche is already taken by Plant anyway! Scrap the ability and give Fish something else. I don't think it's possible to give Fish a useful ability based on moving fast in combat. Rolling in combat does the opposite - it gives you LESS time to react, and without Throne Butt your character is impossible to steer. Fast reflexes and/or careful play are needed to survive. Nuclear Throne is not a game about kiting, and that's great. What am I supposed to do with that ? I mostly use it for backtracking, and judging by youtube vids I'm not alone.Įven the idea of abrupty increasing movement speed in combat is questionable. Honestly it looks like solution looking for a problem. I played various characters, and the roll ability of Fish is one of the worst.
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